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us there this evening we're going to be

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discussing psychic abilities and true

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crimes cases our guest tonight is

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psychic medium-- Ravi Thomas but before

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we bring him out let's do tonight

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kindly and appreciate it great who do we

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Foster and thanks to everybody in chat

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as well it's always good to see our

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regulars and new faces so tonight we

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have Robbie Thomas on the show he's a

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professional psychic medium and author

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who works with law enforcement self

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crime cases we're going to discuss his

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new book psychic profiler the real deal

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true times cases as well and we were

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going through the book we just got a

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copy and we had gone through you just

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got it going through it and it looks

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awesome so shall we bring him up yes

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let's do that

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Robbie are you with us yes I am thank

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you so much for having me tonight

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welcome to Peru

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so universe and thanks for coming on the

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show yeah thank you for coming on no

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it's my pleasure thanks for having me

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guys so we got to start at the beginning

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how did your abilities in this line of

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work start in the line of work itself or

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as a child growing up well why don't you

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start with uh well the abilities and

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then how they're progressing yeah okay

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back in the early 60s if you were a

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single mother and you had a child out of

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wedlock the roman catholic church would

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take your baby away from you and put it

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up for adoption so my mother met this

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gentleman who promised her the world he

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they had a child together and obviously

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they didn't stay together so my mother

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was a single mom the roman catholic

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church intervened took the baby away he

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gave the baby up for adoption

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now years later my mother means my

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father marries him then have me so you

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have this young child aged 2 running

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around going am i adopted or do I have a

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sister or something it's part of me okay

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and I used to say that often so now if I

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forward up to 1990 for my mother's

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funeral and we get pulled aside her

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brother her her sister my aunt and uncle

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pull me aside we're in the park and she

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may say to me all those years you were

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right there was another part of you out

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there her name is Mary and she's been

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looking for you so it all joined in

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everything just became one a new voice

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going on and we did a special was like a

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reunification and where I met my sister

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it was great and then going back to to

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explain my abilities from each to off

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until then and knowing the fact that

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know demikhov's fathers my mother in her

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heart because as a child you don't think

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you you say these things so it just kept

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that and kept at it but she kept it a

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it must have really burden her how she

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had another child out there as the

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from now getting into the part of me

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becoming a police officer the very first

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time I was hired on I went through the

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screening the testing the physical veto

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hunters candidate hit that and then they

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took three axillary now I'm sitting in

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the office work with two other ancillary

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and the chief of police comes in he had

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two and he sat down in his chair big

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how old it and I said I'm seventeen

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to be a police officer so bad and you

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hired and fired in the first day I

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remember that and I remember everybody

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laughing about it so then I you know I'd

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Canada in the Peel Region area so after

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testing going on I'm back home now

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sitting in my kitchen and this ladies

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screaming accident accident so I run out

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the back door I'm wanting to help can I

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hop the fence and I see you're in a robe

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and she's pointing down the laneway of

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all these row of townhomes so that I'm

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running as fast as I can I'm falling I'm

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following the road well the cars apart

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and it's curving into the street so I'm

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looking for our cars and there's no cars

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there's no accident and this gentleman

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says no over here so I turn to my left

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and looked and I run over to him now I'm

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still thinking there's an accident

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because that's what I was told and I'm

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looking on the floor and then I get

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kitchen area and there's a lady running

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my right and there's a man holding a

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doorknob to a door and he raised me over

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grabs me pushes me in shuts the door but

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I'm still thinking accident I'm looking

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for blood on the floor and then all of a

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sudden my eyes look up and it met the

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gentleman inside the bathroom his eyes

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are open and let's work and of blue now

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you when you when somebody comes into

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something like that either freak or you

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know the mentality of training steps in

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and going through the CPR that course

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and everything because you have to have

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that to go through to be a police

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officer I went over and I started

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checking vitals so I'm checking vitals I

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don't get a pulse so I'm gonna start to

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do CPR I'm doing CPR and I hear let me

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go I stopped for a moment I'm not

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thinking that yeah I know I can hear and

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see things but this this doesn't click

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bathroom and that was it the following

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day I get wind because this turned out

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to be my sister's best friend's father

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that died and I did not know is very

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uncanny story but I got wind through my

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sister that the gentleman had a massive

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his heart there was no way I was going

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to be able to revive him or save his

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life regardless so I decided well I'm

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hired now I'm going to quit

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I just don't there's something different

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my approach and how I see but you don't

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be a police officer they want to know

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why so they sent down a film crew a

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captain and the sergeant they were

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making a working tool for EMTs

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firefighters and police officers who

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quit under duress well there was no

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stress with me well it was just I knew

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what I was going to do I was going to

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take my path and go in a different venue

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if you will

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and so we get through all the filming

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and the last question come up why do you

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quit and they say well he was talking to

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me and he told me you let him go and the

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face their faces were just like they

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were staring at me

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wanting to look like am I crazy and I

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said you know I'm not though he really

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did say let me go and that was it so

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that's my police career and now for 28

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years I've been working with them on the

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other side you know that's really

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interesting when you are you know I

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would imagine that when you work with

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the officers they're comfortable with

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the fact that you've been through police

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academy well I didn't quite get to

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police academy I finished all the

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testing all the rigorous you know

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testing and psychological everything

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hired on and we'll see you in two weeks

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type thing and we and I was going where

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I lived is a different town outside of

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Peel Region Capote mm I'd say maybe two

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getting ready to move house to peel and

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then go through the test the Academy

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Elmer and yeah so I was almost there and

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I was hired and I was almost there had

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my foot in the door Kevin that you know

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it's it's uh it reminds me uh when I was

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young I had an opportunity to be a

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butcher you know for processing meat and

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whatnot there was also a musician and

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the night before I started the job I had

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a dream I'd cut my fingers off and I

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know I went in the next day and I

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basically I said I I thank you for

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having faith in me and thank you for

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hiring me and I'm sorry I'm I'm I know

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what you're done but I can't do this um

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you know whether or not that would have

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happened I don't know but that often I

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cannot complete so what it you have some

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pretty impressive endorsements including

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Crimestoppers the Royal Canadian Mounted

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departments police officers etc and

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going through your book there was quite

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a few of them I don't know his page

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after page after each and most mediums

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don't even have you know you know any

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law enforcement endorsements so yes you

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still meet resistance from skeptics the

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way you may have when you first started

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now that you're well known I don't think

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it's resistance I think it's jealousy

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and the fact that the proof is in the

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pudding case after case after case it's

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a proven fact there it's been years

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I mean there's documentation you know

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and that's the reason why I brought the

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book out you know there were skeptics or

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trolls or whatever you want to call them

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usually had stopped John Edwards stop

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Sylvia Browne stop van Prague you made a

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stop Roddy Thomas so this guy went on

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and on and on and built this big Empire

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of what have you I bit my tongue and I

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just knew one day I'm going to bring

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forward complete documentation which all

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the law enforcement will openly endorsed

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me which they openly do and everything

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he says will be squashed instantly so

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here every case that he said on his

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website is in the book in every case

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that I said before was done you have

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family letters you have the police

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testimonials for that case I've even

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thrown in behind the scenes text

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messages in emails to to even flavor the

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story up so people can see like in just

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one case just one case Kevin I could

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have put 50 emails which started from

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beginning to the end but I wanted to

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throw this story in there because I

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don't think people wanted to see you

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know oh my gosh you saved my baby thank

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you very much and me going you're

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welcome you know all the way down I just

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to put the story in there and then throw

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a text message to show that yes I was in

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communication with the family I was also

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in communication with the police and

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then you have the law-enforcement

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testimonial telling you I solved this

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case so you know anymore

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it's the writing's on the wall but

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here's the thing people are ignorant in

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life and regardless of what's in this

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book and tells the truth right to the

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tee

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even if I brought the families into the

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room and the police into the room and

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they all say yes he did and the skeptic

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sitting in the chair there that sketch

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is gonna say you know he didn't so it

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doesn't matter it's just you know what I

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move on I continue helping families and

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that's the way you have to look at it

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you can't just toil over it anymore well

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son said and yes there's a lot of trolls

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out there and we and our every show we

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do be and it was saying to the believer

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the evidence is overwhelming and to the

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skeptic there will never be enough you

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know I think that that is exactly what

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you're talking about you know there's

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just some people out there that you know

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they're there for whatever reason you

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know that they're just kind of uh

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they're not willing to look at facts

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they have a predisposition

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predisposition um many times it's just

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with psychic abilities in general if the

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paranormal even exists I mean you can't

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they can't even get past that and you

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know doing this for as long as we have

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and we've just seen so much

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documentation on some other people and

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from us you know through our society if

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the families we help um Turo and again

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you know there's and you won't get that

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with any genre you know whether it be uh

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I should say any genre unknown it

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unexplained you know there are so many

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UFO sightings if you brought them all

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into a coma ha I mean you'd be there for

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four months going through them you know

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oh absolutely

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and yet you know some people just aren't

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convinced

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going through your book I noticed a

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particular case which involved human

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trafficking and that's something we

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would be asked about regardless um how

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often do you run into that and can you

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talk about that for a bit yeah I've

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brought back and saved a lot of lives

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in the scenario of human trafficking I

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put a couple in this book and actually

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there's three the mother who is the CEO

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of Matt Mothers Against Trafficking

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humans it's a huge organization that

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works worldwide well known through

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America's Most Wanted been on television

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all over the place she endorses me and

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in the book her stories there about her

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daughter Jessie now one case back in the

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early mid 1990s there was a case where a

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lady followed me since then before there

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was myspace Twitter all but right so I

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had Robbie Thomas Florence and I had

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thousands of people watching and

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following and what transpired was she

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said I never thought I'd have to use you

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but my daughter has been taken into the

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sex slave trade and she says the

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detective is at odds and does not know

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what to do can you help and i sat back

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and I go Kim I said oh my gosh with uh

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look at this and yeah it will help but

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the conversation was long throughout the

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day and ended up being at least I think

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three three phone calls because we

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weren't meeting eye-to-eye and I wanted

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her to do something she said my family's

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conservative I can't do that and what I

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wanted to do

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because I sensed that they were watching

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her social media and her daughter was

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watching as well she wasn't that far

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gone where they were going to ship her

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anywhere and go underground so I said

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you have to put this on your social

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media and you have to say exactly what I

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say and be very stern about it he said I

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can't do that so we hung up we had a

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discord now the next day rolls around

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Kim gives me a call and we're discussing

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the same thing and what the scenario of

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putting a posting up she says you know

390
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what I can't worry about what my family

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thinks I can't worry about what my

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friends think and I can't worry about

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what every other individual in this

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world thinks I have to worry about my

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daughter I said that's what I tried to

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get through to you that's what you have

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to do you don't have to worry about what

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the outside elements think feel or what

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they say think about what's good for you

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and your daughter so we ended up putting

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the post up and it was two days later

402
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she had her daughter back and she writes

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this big letter and puts it into the

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book and she puts in one sentence which

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I really love

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I don't want people out there to to

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really listen to this she puts this in

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and he brought my daughter home in

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capital letters alive you know that

410
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heartwarming and that's real when we

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received thank-you letters it is the

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most gratifying thing of all and there's

413
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I there's there's nothing better yeah

414
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you know then like you said the proofs

415
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in the pudding you know you got a look

416
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at the but the end result let's see what

417
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time to forgot it okay if you're

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contacted by someone okay walk us

419
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through the general procedure of how it

420
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works

421
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in general how you work yeah absolutely

422
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it's a anymore and I try to reflect back

423
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because you know time flies so much and

424
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there's so many cases I came in on a

425
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weekly basis I get at least a dozen or

426
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more cases we

427
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that come in this office well yeah I

428
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mean I'm hundreds of cases behind it

429
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takes a year to get me on to your case

430
00:21:16,169 --> 00:21:14,499
it surely does

431
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there's a lot of specifics that have to

432
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happen it's a full-time job for me so

433
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yes I do charge yes I do have a fee

434
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because this is my job this is my

435
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profession it's just not that you know I

436
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can run away in the weekend and just

437
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help a family know it's a daily everyday

438
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type thing and sometimes it's two or

439
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three a day you want to have to travel

440
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go on seeing it's even more

441
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I mean I'm gone away from my family a

442
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week at a time putting my life on the

443
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line leaving my family so the procedures

444
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this it's a 50/50 and trying to remember

445
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back when it was just you know the

446
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families first and then then when they

447
00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:02,139
tie me into the police then we go that

448
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route but the police like one one

449
00:22:09,450 --> 00:22:07,179
detective coined the phrase I'm the

450
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rolodex meaning my name is in there they

451
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just call me so it's like a 50/50

452
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anymore and it's the first procedure

453
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part is they contact me we'll go the

454
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family side first and we have a

455
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discussion I get an email and then I'll

456
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write back and I'll tell them the

457
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specifics I have to be in place I have a

458
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very stern policy my policy is on my

459
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website on my contact page

460
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I'm not these social media type people

461
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who say they work with police I actually

462
00:22:44,339 --> 00:22:42,999
do work with police that's why you see

463
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all the endorsements and you mentioned

464
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in the show that some of them don't get

465
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endorse because no law enforcement will

466
00:22:52,739 --> 00:22:50,289
tell you they don't work with mom they

467
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don't work with psychics very few that's

468
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that's for certain

469
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so I put a lot of years into this twenty

470
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eight years of my life giving it to

471
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other people and when you look at it I

472
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make sure that the specifics that our

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place are there's no third party people

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involved its immediate family only

475
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and then the media family tie in the

476
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police in conjunction

477
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now when knife is brought about in the

478
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letterhead and the official government

479
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document is sent to my office then it

480
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starts because then the channels are

481
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open and I go with the detective now all

482
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:32,680
the information I transpire only goes to

483
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the detective I'll still speak with the

484
00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:36,490
family but I'm not going to give them

485
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any information I learned over oh my

486
00:23:46,050 --> 00:23:43,240
goodness all these many years that if I

487
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go peep to the family they're running to

488
00:23:49,050 --> 00:23:48,670
look for the murderer so I don't do that

489
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anymore

490
00:23:54,990 --> 00:23:52,480
I keep and that's like 20 years I've

491
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heard that so you just take and give

492
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everything to them but you you be

493
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compassionate but I'm strong too when

494
00:24:05,190 --> 00:24:03,130
when I'm on the job I can't have the

495
00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:05,200
family interfering there's a part in the

496
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:06,370
book I know you didn't get to read it

497
00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:07,450
it's called the good the bad the ugly

498
00:24:11,940 --> 00:24:09,760
and it's a very good chapter in there a

499
00:24:14,190 --> 00:24:11,950
lot of people have talked to me about it

500
00:24:16,770 --> 00:24:14,200
and they really really truly appreciate

501
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:16,780
it because I speak of how families

502
00:24:21,810 --> 00:24:19,450
interfere and have more or less screwed

503
00:24:24,390 --> 00:24:21,820
up cases and they can't get involved

504
00:24:27,030 --> 00:24:24,400
like that so we kind of take them to the

505
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:27,040
side when I'm hired on to do a job and

506
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I'm hired on to find your baby or I'm

507
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hired on to find the guy who killed your

508
00:24:36,090 --> 00:24:33,730
baby I don't need you on scene with me I

509
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:36,100
don't need you in my back pocket because

510
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I'm working with the detective and we're

511
00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:41,100
doing things proper it's not a very cold

512
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:46,000
you know saying or or main thing for me

513
00:24:49,380 --> 00:24:48,730
to say I'm not being rash I'm just being

514
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realistic

515
00:24:57,630 --> 00:24:55,660
strong you call me up and the reason why

516
00:25:00,600 --> 00:24:57,640
I'm like this Kevin I've been on scene

517
00:25:02,820 --> 00:25:00,610
and I've had guns pointed at me and I

518
00:25:05,310 --> 00:25:02,830
remember being on on one case and I

519
00:25:07,830 --> 00:25:05,320
remembered a needle a detective Andy

520
00:25:09,270 --> 00:25:07,840
delay he goes I could pull my weapon

521
00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:09,280
faster and you can pull that trigger and

522
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:11,110
I looked over where he was looking and I

523
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:13,330
had a shotgun pointed at me it was right

524
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:15,010
on me I mean all the lady had to do was

525
00:25:19,650 --> 00:25:16,930
sneeze and I wouldn't be here that's

526
00:25:22,350 --> 00:25:19,660
real so when people say they work with

527
00:25:25,140 --> 00:25:22,360
law enforcement and stuff on see I doubt

528
00:25:26,850 --> 00:25:25,150
it highly doubt it that's the real deal

529
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:26,860
going out and putting your life on the

530
00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:29,170
line for other perfect strangers

531
00:25:35,310 --> 00:25:31,840
my wife has a phrase she's coined it

532
00:25:37,650 --> 00:25:35,320
many many many many moons ago I go out

533
00:25:40,860 --> 00:25:37,660
and put my life on the line for perfect

534
00:25:43,110 --> 00:25:40,870
strangers and it's true and and

535
00:25:44,370 --> 00:25:43,120
sometimes it's not even appreciative you

536
00:25:46,740 --> 00:25:44,380
know but I go out there and do it

537
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:46,750
regardless because I want the definitive

538
00:25:51,740 --> 00:25:49,450
at the end and the defendant of that the

539
00:25:55,710 --> 00:25:51,750
end is I'm bringing your baby home or

540
00:25:59,390 --> 00:25:55,720
I'm putting the murderer away but your

541
00:26:06,210 --> 00:25:59,400
abilities your five senses heightened or

542
00:26:09,510 --> 00:26:06,220
are they all are they an all together

543
00:26:10,110 --> 00:26:09,520
different scents like six hunts or is it

544
00:26:13,410 --> 00:26:10,120
both

545
00:26:17,370 --> 00:26:13,420
how would you explain that ah it's

546
00:26:18,570 --> 00:26:17,380
everything how can I explain that I did

547
00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:18,580
on the show one time with something was

548
00:26:22,980 --> 00:26:20,080
pretty much a similar question but was a

549
00:26:28,140 --> 00:26:22,990
little different i envelop myself and

550
00:26:30,810 --> 00:26:28,150
it's just me it just becomes me the

551
00:26:33,210 --> 00:26:30,820
automatic hand drawing the tunnel vision

552
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:33,220
the remote viewing everything that

553
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:36,250
happens happens for a reason and it does

554
00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:37,930
it by itself it's not that okay I'm

555
00:26:42,180 --> 00:26:39,760
going to do this now and I'm at this

556
00:26:45,660 --> 00:26:42,190
stage and I feel this or I'm gonna you

557
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:45,670
know encompass this know it is enveloped

558
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:47,770
within the automatic so it's just

559
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:51,850
happens I I guess over the years of

560
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:53,050
growing up like this

561
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:54,850
in going through the stages of learning

562
00:27:00,360 --> 00:26:58,210
I wrote my first book in 2003 so I've

563
00:27:03,690 --> 00:27:00,370
been an author for a long time and I

564
00:27:06,660 --> 00:27:03,700
then I dealt with it in 2003 explaining

565
00:27:08,940 --> 00:27:06,670
how my peer section would be what could

566
00:27:12,660 --> 00:27:08,950
I be crushed if they found out how I was

567
00:27:16,020 --> 00:27:12,670
how it could see things how I could know

568
00:27:17,910 --> 00:27:16,030
who's bad who could do things and my

569
00:27:21,570 --> 00:27:17,920
very first one-hour television special

570
00:27:24,570 --> 00:27:21,580
one syndication all through in Canada

571
00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:24,580
and the upper parts of America and that

572
00:27:29,790 --> 00:27:26,710
was in 2003 and I explained the same

573
00:27:32,340 --> 00:27:29,800
thing on the television show it's just

574
00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:32,350
it happens it's it's automatic anymore

575
00:27:38,340 --> 00:27:34,960
it's just everything so when I'm I'm

576
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:38,350
seeing and I'm talking to the murderer

577
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:41,410
or the one of the suspects and I know

578
00:27:47,310 --> 00:27:43,210
what he did

579
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:47,320
i've already had a bristol board made up

580
00:27:52,410 --> 00:27:49,570
and i did a profile of him

581
00:27:55,470 --> 00:27:52,420
i profiled his character i profiled what

582
00:27:57,620 --> 00:27:55,480
he did during the double homicide and I

583
00:28:00,360 --> 00:27:57,630
profiled him what he did afterwards

584
00:28:01,980 --> 00:28:00,370
without even meeting his kid not even

585
00:28:04,260 --> 00:28:01,990
seen a picture of him

586
00:28:06,810 --> 00:28:04,270
it was just knowing seeing what was

587
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:06,820
going on on scene when I was on on the

588
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:09,250
death scene and we're in the board room

589
00:28:13,710 --> 00:28:11,410
back at the board room and I drew this

590
00:28:15,150 --> 00:28:13,720
all up for the law enforcement so we

591
00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:15,160
went back to talk to the kid in his

592
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:17,679
driveway and we're playing good cop bad

593
00:28:22,410 --> 00:28:20,170
cop I got the recorder in my hand and

594
00:28:27,150 --> 00:28:22,420
I'm standing like a foot away from this

595
00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:27,160
kid and the officer is just haggling him

596
00:28:30,990 --> 00:28:29,200
with questions he gave up and he says

597
00:28:32,820 --> 00:28:31,000
okay you want to ask some questions go

598
00:28:34,830 --> 00:28:32,830
ahead and I said yeah but he goes just

599
00:28:37,230 --> 00:28:34,840
the meantime he goes just a minute he

600
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:37,240
pulls out the bristol board of the SUV

601
00:28:41,250 --> 00:28:39,130
puts it on the back of the SUV and says

602
00:28:43,110 --> 00:28:41,260
now I want you to read that read that

603
00:28:45,450 --> 00:28:43,120
now because that's what he said about

604
00:28:47,460 --> 00:28:45,460
you so the kids read in every aspect of

605
00:28:49,169 --> 00:28:47,470
what I wrote and he and he literally

606
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:49,179
turned white and he just couldn't

607
00:28:54,299 --> 00:28:52,090
believe I got him so I'm sitting there

608
00:28:56,669 --> 00:28:54,309
and in the book and there's no holding

609
00:28:59,400 --> 00:28:56,679
back in any flavor of language I'm a

610
00:29:02,150 --> 00:28:59,410
very raw individual and that's just how

611
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:02,160
I am I'm just I know I can't say hunt on

612
00:29:07,740 --> 00:29:05,650
TV or radio but I'm very open and that's

613
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:07,750
how I am so I'm talking away to this kid

614
00:29:12,930 --> 00:29:10,570
and I'm saying you know a select of few

615
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:12,940
words and sure enough this kid gives me

616
00:29:18,990 --> 00:29:16,210
his confession because he knew I had him

617
00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:19,000
and I remote viewed him before I knew

618
00:29:25,290 --> 00:29:21,600
what he was doing before afterwards and

619
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:25,300
his whole character if it just enveloped

620
00:29:28,470 --> 00:29:26,530
and that's how it happened so when I get

621
00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:28,480
the automatic hand writing and drawing

622
00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:31,510
it was all there at the same time I

623
00:29:36,750 --> 00:29:34,510
guess you could call it a built in sonar

624
00:29:38,940 --> 00:29:36,760
I don't know what you would need what

625
00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:38,950
you would mimic it or name it I have no

626
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:44,580
yeah it's difficult to put into words

627
00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:48,130
sometimes um you know exactly how it

628
00:29:57,210 --> 00:29:55,139
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644
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our again welcome back to perversely

645
00:30:41,369 --> 00:30:38,830
universe the inception radio network we

646
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:41,379
always kept in Genesis Malik and we're

647
00:30:47,580 --> 00:30:44,610
talking to psychic medium Robby Thomas

648
00:30:49,619 --> 00:30:47,590
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649
00:30:51,930 --> 00:30:49,629
like to take a minute and think everyone

650
00:30:54,690 --> 00:30:51,940
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00:31:02,100 --> 00:30:58,000
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653
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:02,110
by max tons producer mike MJ lucas and

654
00:31:07,139 --> 00:31:03,850
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655
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:07,149
wonderful show an opportunity here to be

656
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:09,610
with you all the segment is brought to

657
00:31:15,299 --> 00:31:12,730
you by Lucas wellness in the UFO

658
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:15,309
Wisconsin research team and the book

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00:31:27,779 --> 00:31:25,509
out Jennifer Malick psychic demonologist

663
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:27,789
Jennifer's like page and of course in

664
00:31:31,499 --> 00:31:29,110
southern Wisconsin Paranormal Society

665
00:31:34,019 --> 00:31:31,509
limited like page we also have two group

666
00:31:38,850 --> 00:31:34,029
page is worth noting like monstrosity is

667
00:31:42,810 --> 00:31:38,860
and ultimate conspiracies if you have

668
00:31:45,529 --> 00:31:42,820
any questions for a guest go to irn chat

669
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:45,539
tom

670
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:48,250
where you can post your questions and

671
00:31:54,090 --> 00:31:51,010
make comments and Jennifer will pass any

672
00:31:55,860 --> 00:31:54,100
questions that come along so you folks

673
00:31:57,870 --> 00:31:55,870
in chat if you have any questions for

674
00:31:59,490 --> 00:31:57,880
this is the segment you know and if you

675
00:32:06,480 --> 00:31:59,500
have any questions please make sure that

676
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:06,490
you type them in caps righty so Rob

677
00:32:18,420 --> 00:32:12,450
you're still with us a lot totally right

678
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:18,430
so I guess let's start this segment with

679
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:21,850
uh how much I gotta ask how much grief

680
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:23,910
counseling do you find yourself doing

681
00:32:29,870 --> 00:32:27,850
conserving some of these cases mm-hmm

682
00:32:34,110 --> 00:32:29,880
good question

683
00:32:36,030 --> 00:32:34,120
in the past maybe ten years ago there

684
00:32:39,900 --> 00:32:36,040
was a lot of it I mean I became

685
00:32:42,150 --> 00:32:39,910
everybody's priest psychologist not only

686
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:42,160
you know being on scene working with the

687
00:32:48,140 --> 00:32:44,650
the law enforcement and what have you so

688
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:48,150
again it ties it up a lot of my time and

689
00:32:58,110 --> 00:32:54,250
it becomes a 24/7 you know profession I

690
00:33:01,410 --> 00:32:58,120
had to actually distance myself from

691
00:33:04,110 --> 00:33:01,420
that aspect because like I say I get

692
00:33:07,010 --> 00:33:04,120
twelve cases a week come into the office

693
00:33:10,230 --> 00:33:07,020
I'm like a year year-and-a-half out from

694
00:33:12,870 --> 00:33:10,240
helping people and some of the cases are

695
00:33:15,660 --> 00:33:12,880
like the Government of India there's

696
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:15,670
there's 12 men missing from a boat I

697
00:33:21,450 --> 00:33:18,730
mean big-time cases a lot of cases I

698
00:33:23,549 --> 00:33:21,460
can't get to them because I'm I can't

699
00:33:25,620 --> 00:33:23,559
just say okay I'm shoving Sally from

700
00:33:27,419 --> 00:33:25,630
down the road away and jump on your case

701
00:33:31,290 --> 00:33:27,429
so I mean there's a lot of a lot of

702
00:33:33,690 --> 00:33:31,300
cases if it's very pertinent where I can

703
00:33:36,660 --> 00:33:33,700
fit it in in five minutes and do

704
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:36,670
something I'd do it but it's very far a

705
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:38,530
few in between

706
00:33:41,430 --> 00:33:40,809
yes I've gotten called by law

707
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:41,440
enforcement

708
00:33:46,350 --> 00:33:43,090
we have a missing endangered elderly

709
00:33:48,810 --> 00:33:46,360
lady and I found her in an hour and

710
00:33:51,030 --> 00:33:48,820
brought her home alive okay fine I shot

711
00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:51,040
that in there I did that but the

712
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:55,360
grieving or the the counseling that's

713
00:34:01,470 --> 00:33:57,850
not my position anymore

714
00:34:04,290 --> 00:34:01,480
my position is like I say I go on I get

715
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:04,300
the job done and I get it done I go in I

716
00:34:08,430 --> 00:34:05,290
find your baby

717
00:34:09,720 --> 00:34:08,440
I find your missing husband or I go and

718
00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:09,730
out

719
00:34:14,099 --> 00:34:12,129
put a closure to the case and find the

720
00:34:16,980 --> 00:34:14,109
murderer and then I move on to the next

721
00:34:20,030 --> 00:34:16,990
one because there's always another one I

722
00:34:22,829 --> 00:34:20,040
just don't have time to counsel people

723
00:34:26,039 --> 00:34:22,839
and here's the thing too it's not that I

724
00:34:28,789 --> 00:34:26,049
become cold to people or disheartened

725
00:34:32,369 --> 00:34:28,799
it's just that he eats up so much time

726
00:34:35,940 --> 00:34:32,379
that I just have that time to do that

727
00:34:37,740 --> 00:34:35,950
and if I did that alone I couldn't go

728
00:34:40,349 --> 00:34:37,750
out and help people because people want

729
00:34:42,210 --> 00:34:40,359
to talk to you for an hour two hours and

730
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:42,220
there's just no time and I wish I could

731
00:34:48,839 --> 00:34:44,970
but there's just no time on one person

732
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:48,849
you know we can relate with that too is

733
00:34:57,030 --> 00:34:52,169
we get a lot of calls and cases a lot

734
00:35:02,730 --> 00:34:57,040
and you just can't get to everybody I

735
00:35:05,789 --> 00:35:02,740
mean especially you know um yeah like

736
00:35:08,180 --> 00:35:05,799
anytime you know we do a big interview

737
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:08,190
or something you get this influx of

738
00:35:12,450 --> 00:35:10,690
stuff that comes in and you want to help

739
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:12,460
everybody but like you said for each

740
00:35:17,609 --> 00:35:14,530
individual you're talking about hours

741
00:35:21,390 --> 00:35:17,619
and hours of you know going back and

742
00:35:25,289 --> 00:35:21,400
forth and discussing and you know

743
00:35:29,730 --> 00:35:25,299
whatnot you know all they can do is do

744
00:35:32,309 --> 00:35:29,740
what you can do you know and for you you

745
00:35:35,819 --> 00:35:32,319
know it's just great that you're able to

746
00:35:38,430 --> 00:35:35,829
help people and you know bring people

747
00:35:40,970 --> 00:35:38,440
back and give people hope it's a

748
00:35:44,609 --> 00:35:40,980
wonderful thing yeah definitely

749
00:35:47,309 --> 00:35:44,619
definitely it was amazing what it's so

750
00:35:49,589 --> 00:35:47,319
amazing to hear that somebody like you

751
00:35:52,260 --> 00:35:49,599
would put so much of yourself out there

752
00:35:54,210 --> 00:35:52,270
to help perfect strangers I mean that's

753
00:35:58,950 --> 00:35:54,220
amazing you don't hear about that that

754
00:36:03,329 --> 00:35:58,960
often while we were team right and if it

755
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:03,339
was you and if I had my baby missing and

756
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:05,650
you in you and you helped me and

757
00:36:09,059 --> 00:36:06,730
whatever cost

758
00:36:11,579 --> 00:36:09,069
I'd be so appreciative of you for the

759
00:36:14,849 --> 00:36:11,589
rest of my life you know whatever it

760
00:36:17,460 --> 00:36:14,859
would cost me here's the thing I mean I

761
00:36:20,579 --> 00:36:17,470
mean I'm in the DA's office with the FBI

762
00:36:21,390 --> 00:36:20,589
and they're looking at the mom her

763
00:36:23,650 --> 00:36:21,400
daughter's missing

764
00:36:25,660 --> 00:36:23,660
murdered and the DFA turn

765
00:36:28,180 --> 00:36:25,670
goes how much you're willing to pay to

766
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:28,190
get your daughter back fifty thousand

767
00:36:32,710 --> 00:36:30,890
twenty-five thousand and she did a

768
00:36:35,380 --> 00:36:32,720
little hung her head and then she sat up

769
00:36:36,730 --> 00:36:35,390
she goes and changed a complete subject

770
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:36,740
she says oh we're putting her

771
00:36:39,730 --> 00:36:38,089
granddaughter through middle school

772
00:36:41,650 --> 00:36:39,740
sixty-four thousand dollars this year

773
00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:41,660
and we're spot her a brand new car

774
00:36:46,270 --> 00:36:44,720
32,000 the DSA looks over at the FBI guy

775
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:46,280
and I know it's going through the brain

776
00:36:50,109 --> 00:36:47,690
I know what it is

777
00:36:52,450 --> 00:36:50,119
it's like she just said she put almost a

778
00:36:55,089 --> 00:36:52,460
hundred grand over for this child where

779
00:36:58,329 --> 00:36:55,099
you won't spend you know ten grand to

780
00:37:00,069 --> 00:36:58,339
get the DNA analysis of a certain thing

781
00:37:01,450 --> 00:37:00,079
that they're not paying for they needed

782
00:37:04,299 --> 00:37:01,460
the money to do it but she wouldn't do

783
00:37:06,309 --> 00:37:04,309
it so folks it's like your priorities

784
00:37:12,849 --> 00:37:06,319
right priorities and you have to being

785
00:37:15,010 --> 00:37:12,859
straight so yeah I mean you know yeah

786
00:37:17,500 --> 00:37:15,020
because it's it's like before when I

787
00:37:20,319 --> 00:37:17,510
said we you know we make an attempt to

788
00:37:22,029 --> 00:37:20,329
help those that contact us it doesn't

789
00:37:25,029 --> 00:37:22,039
mean necessarily that we're directly

790
00:37:26,650 --> 00:37:25,039
helping them it may be like we will find

791
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:26,660
somebody else in their area that can

792
00:37:32,620 --> 00:37:28,970
help them or that kind of thing uh uh

793
00:37:36,970 --> 00:37:32,630
and that's a really good point you had

794
00:37:39,789 --> 00:37:36,980
to I have a question for you from Chet

795
00:37:42,670 --> 00:37:39,799
from the chat room have you had any

796
00:37:51,180 --> 00:37:42,680
cases where people have misled and lied

797
00:37:53,559 --> 00:37:51,190
to you for whatever reason yeah you know

798
00:37:56,740 --> 00:37:53,569
no because the way it worked

799
00:38:01,240 --> 00:37:56,750
professionally is again through the

800
00:38:03,339 --> 00:38:01,250
police so I cut out all the BS and if

801
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:03,349
people come and say you know yeah I can

802
00:38:08,019 --> 00:38:05,210
read through people and if they do and

803
00:38:10,779 --> 00:38:08,029
if they're shooting you a sales pitch or

804
00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:10,789
a line I don't get involved because it's

805
00:38:18,039 --> 00:38:16,160
just BS and the authentic or you the

806
00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:18,049
real deal or whatever you want to call

807
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:20,000
it that's the title the book is a real

808
00:38:23,799 --> 00:38:21,710
deal doesn't mean it's not me the real

809
00:38:26,829 --> 00:38:23,809
deal is it's cases and it's true that's

810
00:38:30,279 --> 00:38:26,839
what it meant by that the real deal so

811
00:38:31,690 --> 00:38:30,289
if it's real the police I go through

812
00:38:35,049 --> 00:38:31,700
them directly so I cut out all that

813
00:38:37,540 --> 00:38:35,059
other crap and and and don't deal with

814
00:38:39,490 --> 00:38:37,550
it but on the other

815
00:38:42,930 --> 00:38:39,500
and on the flip side of this coin in

816
00:38:46,270 --> 00:38:42,940
that book people are gonna read where

817
00:38:48,910 --> 00:38:46,280
psychics for so-called psychics who say

818
00:38:52,510 --> 00:38:48,920
certain things not a guy was dead in

819
00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:52,520
Mexico buried behind a jail along a

820
00:38:58,660 --> 00:38:54,800
fence line and a family had to live with

821
00:39:01,900 --> 00:38:58,670
that since 1996 to 2010 and I put my

822
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:01,910
name on the line before my home town I

823
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:04,310
sold out the Imperial theater and it was

824
00:39:10,030 --> 00:39:07,490
packed I brought that lady onstage with

825
00:39:12,910 --> 00:39:10,040
the police and I gave her homework prior

826
00:39:17,230 --> 00:39:12,920
to coming onstage I found that man a lie

827
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:17,240
Oh west in Canada and so-called psychic

828
00:39:25,620 --> 00:39:21,050
said he was dead in Mexico and they she

829
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:25,630
fed off this family from 1996 to 2010

830
00:39:32,230 --> 00:39:29,530
which really hurts us a lot of years and

831
00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:32,240
you look at that and there's other cases

832
00:39:36,250 --> 00:39:34,640
in the book so when when I look at

833
00:39:38,490 --> 00:39:36,260
people and they say yeah I got the

834
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:38,500
ability I could do this I could do that

835
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:41,090
here's a thing and I'm not coming down

836
00:39:44,890 --> 00:39:43,250
on everybody I know there's people

837
00:39:47,050 --> 00:39:44,900
better than I am out there there is

838
00:39:49,870 --> 00:39:47,060
there's God there's people out there and

839
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:49,880
they do it there are doctors

840
00:39:53,770 --> 00:39:52,490
there's physicians there's specialists

841
00:39:57,430 --> 00:39:53,780
there's surgeons

842
00:39:59,230 --> 00:39:57,440
there's pharmacists and you look at all

843
00:40:01,390 --> 00:39:59,240
the variants of all those people they

844
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:01,400
all have specialty in something so

845
00:40:05,890 --> 00:40:04,370
everybody's different but when you when

846
00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:05,900
you see things like that and it goes

847
00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:07,520
along the lines of is there have been a

848
00:40:12,580 --> 00:40:10,400
lie in a case oh yeah I'm catching

849
00:40:15,070 --> 00:40:12,590
people in lies and hurting folks and I'm

850
00:40:16,450 --> 00:40:15,080
resetting the cases and and I printed it

851
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:16,460
up it's all in the book I'm bringing a

852
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:18,530
forward to the truth and who backs it up

853
00:40:22,060 --> 00:40:20,210
the families in the law enforcement

854
00:40:29,250 --> 00:40:22,070
that's that's a good when you make two

855
00:40:35,340 --> 00:40:29,260
is uh you know there are there are

856
00:40:37,300 --> 00:40:35,350
psychics out there who I guess you know

857
00:40:39,250 --> 00:40:37,310
nobody's right a hundred percent of the

858
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:39,260
time I don't think anybody can know that

859
00:40:44,620 --> 00:40:41,570
no right under percent time so there's

860
00:40:48,300 --> 00:40:44,630
got to be some discretion when you're

861
00:40:50,769 --> 00:40:48,310
working with somebody who is emotional

862
00:40:53,649 --> 00:40:50,779
over something is

863
00:40:56,829 --> 00:40:53,659
very important in their world you know

864
00:41:04,870 --> 00:40:56,839
and you got to be very careful like I

865
00:41:09,029 --> 00:41:04,880
know when Jennifer and Vern do walks for

866
00:41:12,339 --> 00:41:09,039
you know homes and clients and what not

867
00:41:14,549 --> 00:41:12,349
they get impressions did you know if

868
00:41:21,279 --> 00:41:14,559
they pick up anything that is

869
00:41:23,469 --> 00:41:21,289
dramatically unnerving you know they'll

870
00:41:27,219 --> 00:41:23,479
discuss it with the team before its

871
00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:27,229
approach because I'm the chance that

872
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:29,839
their bond you know that you can win

873
00:41:34,179 --> 00:41:32,209
then you say oh I sense a floating

874
00:41:35,380 --> 00:41:34,189
bloody head over your debt or something

875
00:41:36,789 --> 00:41:35,390
you know I'm talking about Hani case

876
00:41:38,890 --> 00:41:36,799
they opposed to your missing person

877
00:41:41,559 --> 00:41:38,900
cases but it's the ramifications are so

878
00:41:43,299 --> 00:41:41,569
same you know you can flap somebody out

879
00:41:44,529 --> 00:41:43,309
terribly and make the situation worse

880
00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:44,539
and the one thing you never want to do

881
00:41:55,029 --> 00:41:46,209
is make the situation worse

882
00:41:58,089 --> 00:41:55,039
um so let's see I know I understand I

883
00:42:01,390 --> 00:41:58,099
mean you know in the paranormal aspect

884
00:42:02,799 --> 00:42:01,400
I've been in movies back 2005 you know

885
00:42:05,019 --> 00:42:02,809
so I've been in the paranormal myself

886
00:42:06,909 --> 00:42:05,029
for a long time just wrapped up a new TV

887
00:42:09,969 --> 00:42:06,919
series with coexistence with Keith page

888
00:42:11,829 --> 00:42:09,979
from sci-fi channel so we go through the

889
00:42:14,189 --> 00:42:11,839
certain scenarios of what's here what's

890
00:42:18,249 --> 00:42:14,199
there and we thought a lot on film

891
00:42:21,069 --> 00:42:18,259
unvalidated a lot of really good stuff

892
00:42:23,169 --> 00:42:21,079
caught on film there's not snapshots I'm

893
00:42:24,459 --> 00:42:23,179
talking film footage when I would say

894
00:42:27,399 --> 00:42:24,469
this was going on here

895
00:42:30,009 --> 00:42:27,409
and one episode we had a guy we had make

896
00:42:32,559 --> 00:42:30,019
people sign disclosures you cannot film

897
00:42:36,999 --> 00:42:32,569
and put it out there one guy didn't read

898
00:42:39,309 --> 00:42:37,009
the memo and he had Facebook live any

899
00:42:42,459 --> 00:42:39,319
facebook life what we were talking about

900
00:42:44,259 --> 00:42:42,469
was an area and he caught it in hundreds

901
00:42:47,789 --> 00:42:44,269
of people seen it but we had to get it

902
00:42:51,159 --> 00:42:47,799
taken down from Facebook immediately

903
00:42:54,069 --> 00:42:51,169
yeah so I know I know the variants on

904
00:42:57,069 --> 00:42:54,079
one end of the spectrum to actually

905
00:43:00,489 --> 00:42:57,079
working you know real stuff like the

906
00:43:02,469 --> 00:43:00,499
murder cases and what have you there is

907
00:43:05,829 --> 00:43:02,479
a huge difference there but yeah I

908
00:43:10,030 --> 00:43:05,839
understand totally what you're talking

909
00:43:13,069 --> 00:43:10,040
do you ever get flashes of the future

910
00:43:18,190 --> 00:43:13,079
compared to or opposed to it like the

911
00:43:21,740 --> 00:43:18,200
flashes of what's already transpired

912
00:43:22,819 --> 00:43:21,750
yeah you know we talk quantum and we

913
00:43:25,940 --> 00:43:22,829
talk

914
00:43:30,050 --> 00:43:25,950
physics and and what have you I was

915
00:43:33,050 --> 00:43:30,060
writing a script called time shift now

916
00:43:35,870 --> 00:43:33,060
mark Tillman is the original casting

917
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:35,880
director for it for Stephen King and I

918
00:43:39,559 --> 00:43:37,050
was on the phone with him

919
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:39,569
and I'm on the phone to don Hutchison of

920
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:42,690
lift-off productions I'm typing this all

921
00:43:47,660 --> 00:43:44,970
out getting all done and it was just

922
00:43:50,270 --> 00:43:47,670
flowing it was a week before this event

923
00:43:51,829 --> 00:43:50,280
truly happened and it's marked on my

924
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:51,839
Facebook page you can actually go back

925
00:43:58,270 --> 00:43:55,530
both you guys and go back to March 2011

926
00:44:03,140 --> 00:43:58,280
the week before the earthquake in Japan

927
00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:03,150
and I'm writing in 9.0 earthquake off

928
00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:06,240
the coast of Japan black tsunami the

929
00:44:12,050 --> 00:44:10,079
abyss all this tragic stuff my last

930
00:44:14,690 --> 00:44:12,060
words the night before it happened

931
00:44:17,359 --> 00:44:14,700
March 10th the night before it happened

932
00:44:19,339 --> 00:44:17,369
I said come tomorrow morning what's

933
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:19,349
going to happen everybody we have to

934
00:44:24,380 --> 00:44:21,930
accept this it's the new there's no

935
00:44:26,300 --> 00:44:24,390
one's had a 9.0 before and the next day

936
00:44:30,170 --> 00:44:26,310
we had a 9.0 earthquake off the coast of

937
00:44:32,930 --> 00:44:30,180
Japan so seeing things before it happens

938
00:44:34,430 --> 00:44:32,940
yeah not getting to the murder case two

939
00:44:37,339 --> 00:44:34,440
days before Victoria Stafford went

940
00:44:39,319 --> 00:44:37,349
missing I seen the treeline scene where

941
00:44:40,849 --> 00:44:39,329
her body went into the tree line I seen

942
00:44:42,589 --> 00:44:40,859
that huge pile of rocks in the debris

943
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:42,599
that was about 15 feet from the tree

944
00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:45,210
line the laneway the horse and buggy

945
00:44:51,230 --> 00:44:47,730
drawn carriages by the Mennonites and

946
00:44:53,450 --> 00:44:51,240
I'm drawing all this stuff up now here's

947
00:44:55,220 --> 00:44:53,460
a real proof clicker for everybody who's

948
00:44:57,859 --> 00:44:55,230
tuning into this did you go to my

949
00:45:00,170 --> 00:44:57,869
website Robby Thomas net and you go to

950
00:45:03,650 --> 00:45:00,180
the murder missing-persons cages cages

951
00:45:06,380 --> 00:45:03,660
cases and you click all the way down

952
00:45:09,319 --> 00:45:06,390
you'll see 99.9 the Fox fm

953
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:09,329
you listen to that interview clip herb

954
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:11,930
you hear the program director he says

955
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:14,250
yeah I remember you telling me this

956
00:45:18,319 --> 00:45:16,410
stuff before they investigated this and

957
00:45:20,809 --> 00:45:18,329
you showed me all your drawings be

958
00:45:22,249 --> 00:45:20,819
for the investigated this case because I

959
00:45:25,579 --> 00:45:22,259
was a skeptic but I'm gonna believe her

960
00:45:27,890 --> 00:45:25,589
now because he's seen it before I made

961
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:27,900
sure that somebody's seen it before my

962
00:45:31,390 --> 00:45:29,130
drawings and stuff were handed over to

963
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:31,400
the police so a showed that was proof

964
00:45:36,049 --> 00:45:34,890
I'm a very intricate individual I do

965
00:45:37,999 --> 00:45:36,059
certain things that make sure

966
00:45:40,939 --> 00:45:38,009
everything's date stamped everything is

967
00:45:42,380 --> 00:45:40,949
looked at before so it's proof because I

968
00:45:44,809 --> 00:45:42,390
went through years of people saying now

969
00:45:46,519 --> 00:45:44,819
you didn't do it so I learned over 28

970
00:45:49,339 --> 00:45:46,529
years yeah this is how you do it

971
00:45:53,059 --> 00:45:49,349
have you ever had a situation where you

972
00:45:56,539 --> 00:45:53,069
were able to pick up on something or

973
00:46:01,910 --> 00:45:56,549
someone yeah you didn't or couldn't act

974
00:46:03,919 --> 00:46:01,920
upon it yeah well Victoria Stafford

975
00:46:05,479 --> 00:46:03,929
going missing you can't stop the

976
00:46:06,529 --> 00:46:05,489
inevitable I know a lot of people say

977
00:46:08,269 --> 00:46:06,539
that there I wish I had the ability

978
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:08,279
because then I could go out there and

979
00:46:13,870 --> 00:46:11,130
stop and be Superman or spider-man or

980
00:46:17,449 --> 00:46:13,880
whatever hero you want to call yourself

981
00:46:21,049 --> 00:46:17,459
no and it doesn't happen that way I've

982
00:46:23,209 --> 00:46:21,059
seen much before and like Victoria you

983
00:46:25,189 --> 00:46:23,219
can't stop it the 9.0 earthquake a week

984
00:46:27,229 --> 00:46:25,199
before it happened can't stop it can't

985
00:46:28,309 --> 00:46:27,239
warn anybody can't do nothing who's

986
00:46:30,859 --> 00:46:28,319
gonna listen to you you're gonna have a

987
00:46:33,380 --> 00:46:30,869
9.0 earthquake oh sure but you know what

988
00:46:37,339 --> 00:46:33,390
I mean you you you just can't stop the

989
00:46:40,609 --> 00:46:37,349
inevitable there's there are many

990
00:46:44,809 --> 00:46:40,619
scenarios but the point of this that

991
00:46:47,479 --> 00:46:44,819
question and the answer is I don't care

992
00:46:49,789 --> 00:46:47,489
who you are you're rockefeller or

993
00:46:50,539 --> 00:46:49,799
whatever you're not going to stop the

994
00:46:53,359 --> 00:46:50,549
inevitable

995
00:46:58,699 --> 00:46:53,369
you just can't it's going to happen it's

996
00:47:01,429 --> 00:46:58,709
in God's hands so we have another

997
00:47:03,890 --> 00:47:01,439
question for you from the chatroom have

998
00:47:06,769 --> 00:47:03,900
you ever had any encounters with inhuman

999
00:47:11,630 --> 00:47:06,779
evil and if so how did you protect

1000
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:11,640
yourself ah you know when we filming I

1001
00:47:16,609 --> 00:47:13,890
worked with 14 time award-winning film

1002
00:47:18,709 --> 00:47:16,619
producer Ron abuzz B and Christopher

1003
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:18,719
O'Brien who's on ancient aliens now he

1004
00:47:22,489 --> 00:47:20,880
was actually behind the camera long

1005
00:47:26,199 --> 00:47:22,499
before I even got in front of the camera

1006
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:26,209
and Chris is a good friend of mine he's

1007
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:28,890
he's doing a wonderful job kudos to him

1008
00:47:37,340 --> 00:47:32,970
we were filming in Manteno status

1009
00:47:39,770 --> 00:47:37,350
back in 2005 and I remember sitting

1010
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:39,780
there I'm telling Chris I mean when

1011
00:47:48,170 --> 00:47:41,970
there's somebody here it's an evil

1012
00:47:49,490 --> 00:47:48,180
spirit and it's it's like not human

1013
00:47:50,330 --> 00:47:49,500
because spirit is different than being

1014
00:47:52,820 --> 00:47:50,340
human right

1015
00:47:55,130 --> 00:47:52,830
so I said it's here I said what I'm

1016
00:47:58,970 --> 00:47:55,140
going to do and as I was discussing that

1017
00:48:01,370 --> 00:47:58,980
my hat turned on my head all itself and

1018
00:48:04,010 --> 00:48:01,380
Chris nearly peed his pants and he's

1019
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:04,020
filming me and I said you see that he

1020
00:48:08,030 --> 00:48:05,970
goes yeah I cut that and I said yeah I

1021
00:48:10,070 --> 00:48:08,040
said now what we're going to do is I

1022
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:10,080
want you to show up on film

1023
00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:13,440
I'll leave my hat and sure enough it

1024
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:14,640
didn't show up in a film but showed up

1025
00:48:20,330 --> 00:48:18,330
on snapshot and it was it was awesome to

1026
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:20,340
see this great big monster head and what

1027
00:48:26,750 --> 00:48:23,610
have you go to another scenario but

1028
00:48:31,970 --> 00:48:26,760
Keith's age we're at the turn thing D on

1029
00:48:35,500 --> 00:48:31,980
the Ohio theatre there Twin City Ohio

1030
00:48:39,020 --> 00:48:35,510
theatre he was called and we're filming

1031
00:48:41,240 --> 00:48:39,030
we're up on stage behind and Keith is

1032
00:48:42,590 --> 00:48:41,250
about 15 feet from me and the

1033
00:48:45,050 --> 00:48:42,600
temperature dropped about 15 degrees

1034
00:48:46,970 --> 00:48:45,060
instantly although all the gauges went

1035
00:48:48,740 --> 00:48:46,980
down and you guys it's over here isn't

1036
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:48,750
robbed and I'm looking over there

1037
00:48:51,350 --> 00:48:50,250
everybody see like breath come out of

1038
00:48:55,100 --> 00:48:51,360
your mouth right it was the digit

1039
00:48:57,380 --> 00:48:55,110
dropped and I I turned sideways my chair

1040
00:48:59,960 --> 00:48:57,390
and I looked I could see it and I go to

1041
00:49:02,350 --> 00:48:59,970
Keith I go and the cameraman has the

1042
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:02,360
film camera going keith has a snapshot

1043
00:49:08,450 --> 00:49:05,490
camera so it but we had both so we were

1044
00:49:12,110 --> 00:49:08,460
doing we're fine and I said and I point

1045
00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:12,120
my thumb and ago no it's right here so

1046
00:49:16,070 --> 00:49:14,160
at the end of the night we go and

1047
00:49:18,980 --> 00:49:16,080
analyze and take a look at the the

1048
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:18,990
reveal of the the photograph we couldn't

1049
00:49:22,580 --> 00:49:20,490
see the film footage because we have to

1050
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:22,590
take that the producer or the directors

1051
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:25,890
taking that back to off shoot Indiana

1052
00:49:32,540 --> 00:49:29,610
and we look at that photograph this

1053
00:49:36,050 --> 00:49:32,550
thing was about seven feet maybe eight

1054
00:49:40,460 --> 00:49:36,060
feet towering tall maybe about four feet

1055
00:49:42,260 --> 00:49:40,470
wide its head was I was weird looking it

1056
00:49:44,270 --> 00:49:42,270
was a human and it was standing right

1057
00:49:45,890 --> 00:49:44,280
beside me I could feel it

1058
00:49:48,350 --> 00:49:45,900
it was really weird

1059
00:49:50,300 --> 00:49:48,360
and everybody was just like oh my gosh

1060
00:49:52,370 --> 00:49:50,310
what is that like everybody got a chance

1061
00:49:55,070 --> 00:49:52,380
to look at it and every film foot in

1062
00:49:56,930 --> 00:49:55,080
every place we filmed we brought 30

1063
00:49:58,940 --> 00:49:56,940
people from the public so they could

1064
00:50:01,930 --> 00:49:58,950
witness what we were doing so it showed

1065
00:50:04,250 --> 00:50:01,940
that it was all true and and validated

1066
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:04,260
it was a good year to do that filming

1067
00:50:16,270 --> 00:50:10,490
last year so we're into our last

1068
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:16,280
stretcher so what's it what's in your

1069
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:19,200
any plans for the future they need to be

1070
00:50:27,140 --> 00:50:22,530
coming up or anything you wish to share

1071
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:27,150
with everyone before I'm just thankful

1072
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:28,530
for being on this beautiful show you

1073
00:50:34,190 --> 00:50:30,690
have listened

1074
00:50:39,290 --> 00:50:34,200
thank you for yeah no it was great you

1075
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:39,300
guys are wonderful now yeah the book

1076
00:50:42,860 --> 00:50:41,370
came out I was filmed by America's Most

1077
00:50:45,470 --> 00:50:42,870
Wanted film crew I'm the only psychic

1078
00:50:50,540 --> 00:50:45,480
medium to ever be filmed by them in his

1079
00:50:54,730 --> 00:50:50,550
own pilot shoot show now as the book

1080
00:50:57,740 --> 00:50:54,740
came out an Emmy award-winning director

1081
00:51:04,250 --> 00:50:57,750
got a hold of this who works with John

1082
00:51:05,930 --> 00:51:04,260
Walsh and knows John he's really big I

1083
00:51:08,210 --> 00:51:05,940
can't name mention his name right now I

1084
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:08,220
wanted to leak out that much I'm gonna

1085
00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:10,410
give a little teaser here we put a

1086
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:12,480
program together already within a week

1087
00:51:18,530 --> 00:51:15,930
and we've got networks that he says to

1088
00:51:24,170 --> 00:51:18,540
me will either buy the rights to my book

1089
00:51:26,900 --> 00:51:24,180
and get it I get a show but do you guys

1090
00:51:30,490 --> 00:51:26,910
remember the show medium on TV Allison

1091
00:51:33,230 --> 00:51:30,500
Dubois yes I do now favorite show those

1092
00:51:35,450 --> 00:51:33,240
okay well Allison kind of you know

1093
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:35,460
trying to solve the case and they made a

1094
00:51:40,310 --> 00:51:37,050
show at her out of her doing that

1095
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:40,320
they're gonna take all my cases hundreds

1096
00:51:44,990 --> 00:51:42,330
that have been solved and they're gonna

1097
00:51:47,870 --> 00:51:45,000
make the show like that but you're gonna

1098
00:51:49,940 --> 00:51:47,880
get the real what really got solved

1099
00:51:53,090 --> 00:51:49,950
people's names stuff like that so it's

1100
00:51:54,650 --> 00:51:53,100
real that's one part of the show and the

1101
00:51:56,420 --> 00:51:54,660
other show is I'm actually going to be

1102
00:51:57,930 --> 00:51:56,430
doing going with the blue line you

1103
00:51:59,490 --> 00:51:57,940
catching the guys

1104
00:52:02,849 --> 00:51:59,500
so there's been a lot of talks like that

1105
00:52:04,829 --> 00:52:02,859
and I hope it comes to fruition seeing

1106
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:04,839
everything then everything that has

1107
00:52:12,029 --> 00:52:08,890
being drawn up put into play and been

1108
00:52:14,789 --> 00:52:12,039
submitted so cross your fingers and

1109
00:52:20,250 --> 00:52:14,799
hopefully we go the distance and get

1110
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:20,260
this suite we have a time for one more

1111
00:52:27,150 --> 00:52:22,690
question before we ask you can share

1112
00:52:33,329 --> 00:52:27,160
links and stuff um what's your take on

1113
00:52:38,700 --> 00:52:33,339
the afterlife ah yeah my my savior's the

1114
00:52:40,890 --> 00:52:38,710
Lord Jesus Jesus Christ and I don't I

1115
00:52:42,359 --> 00:52:40,900
don't spoon feed anybody so don't

1116
00:52:45,020 --> 00:52:42,369
anybody get all upset and whatever

1117
00:52:49,049 --> 00:52:45,030
that's my and the proof to me is this

1118
00:52:49,859 --> 00:52:49,059
when I go to do something and I bring

1119
00:52:52,950 --> 00:52:49,869
your baby back

1120
00:52:54,450 --> 00:52:52,960
I pray to God when I go and I bring the

1121
00:52:55,890 --> 00:52:54,460
murderer and we put him on death row

1122
00:52:59,010 --> 00:52:55,900
because he murdered your baby

1123
00:53:01,620 --> 00:52:59,020
I pray to God when I went to the icy

1124
00:53:03,930 --> 00:53:01,630
units and the neurologists were going to

1125
00:53:05,039 --> 00:53:03,940
unplug they'll kiss and that's one of

1126
00:53:08,010 --> 00:53:05,049
the stories I know it's in the book that

1127
00:53:09,779 --> 00:53:08,020
you got to read and he was he was brain

1128
00:53:12,660 --> 00:53:09,789
dead and they were gonna kill him

1129
00:53:15,569 --> 00:53:12,670
and in three minutes I got the answer

1130
00:53:19,039 --> 00:53:15,579
what was wrong and then they they knew

1131
00:53:23,519 --> 00:53:19,049
they were wrong bills home today alive

1132
00:53:27,799 --> 00:53:23,529
talking walking eating he's in that was

1133
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:27,809
from God so the afterlife it's there and

1134
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:31,930
we're here to to love each other to move

1135
00:53:37,279 --> 00:53:34,450
forward and help as much as you can in

1136
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:37,289
the afterlife is there believe me it is

1137
00:53:44,910 --> 00:53:42,000
so long and for those curious I shared

1138
00:53:46,289 --> 00:53:44,920
Ravi's link in chat room you could find

1139
00:53:49,980 --> 00:53:46,299
out all his information if you would

1140
00:53:51,900 --> 00:53:49,990
like to know more as well as links to

1141
00:53:54,900 --> 00:53:51,910
find his book so if anyone's interested

1142
00:53:59,990 --> 00:53:54,910
by all means please pop over to his site

1143
00:54:08,859 --> 00:54:05,700
that is WWE Thomas not is that correct

1144
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:08,869
yeah that's correct yes

1145
00:54:12,950 --> 00:54:10,890
awesome well thank you so much for

1146
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:12,960
coming on inserting an hour with assist

1147
00:54:17,630 --> 00:54:15,690
was awesome yeah we really appreciate it

1148
00:54:20,780 --> 00:54:17,640
and everyone in chat was really glad

1149
00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:20,790
that you came on also know thank you for

1150
00:54:25,220 --> 00:54:23,730
having me you guys are lovely and I'm

1151
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:25,230
great I'm glad I did this with you

1152
00:54:35,660 --> 00:54:30,530
tonight thank you most look so next week

1153
00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:35,670
we have a very close acquaintance and

1154
00:54:40,820 --> 00:54:38,960
colleague of ours a good friend of ours

1155
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:40,830
psychotherapist and kernel investigator

1156
00:54:45,130 --> 00:54:44,130
Tom McGuire he will be on the show next

1157
00:54:48,620 --> 00:54:45,140
week

1158
00:54:50,300 --> 00:54:48,630
yay yes so we are excited to have him

1159
00:54:54,020 --> 00:54:50,310
back on he hasn't been on a couple years

1160
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:54,030
and he's absolutely fabulous to talk to

1161
00:54:57,770 --> 00:54:55,650
and we were blessed to work with them so

1162
00:55:01,339 --> 00:54:57,780
he'll be coming up and then I believe

1163
00:55:04,910 --> 00:55:01,349
the week after that we have Tobias

1164
00:55:08,300 --> 00:55:04,920
Whelan from 40 and from seeing Euler 14

1165
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:08,310
I got singular 40m so then our next two

1166
00:55:12,710 --> 00:55:12,000
shows coming up thank you everyone for

1167
00:55:14,570 --> 00:55:12,720
being here tonight

1168
00:55:16,609 --> 00:55:14,580
so the believer the evidence is

1169
00:55:19,310 --> 00:55:16,619
overwhelming into the skeptic there will

1170
00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:19,320
never be enough thank you god bless you

1171
00:55:23,359 --> 00:55:20,730
everyone have a wonderful night and a

1172
00:55:25,339 --> 00:55:23,369
wonderful weekend plot go check out